I am looking at your catalog at
 http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.xml
i am wondering what if you put just the catalogRef in this top catalog, and then add the metadata to the referenced catalog? That would make things slightly easier. 
I will also look at adding a link back to the catalog from the dataset.
Carl Wolfteich wrote:
Actually, using my catalog as an example, I was thinking that the parent 
dataset "metadata" (html) page like this first one:
http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.html?cmd=subset&catalog=http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.xml&dataset=SSM/I%20Pathfinder%20Wind%20Speed%20-%20Level%202 
would have a link in it to its CatalogRef:
http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalogServices?catalog=http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/cataloggen/catalogs/JPL054.xml 
and also in reverse, a dataset node like this:
http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.html?cmd=subset&catalog=http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/cataloggen/catalogs/JPL054.xml&dataset=1987-217 
would have a link back to its parent metadata page (first page given 
above):
http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.html?cmd=subset&catalog=http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.xml&dataset=SSM/I%20Pathfinder%20Wind%20Speed%20-%20Level%202 
In your example it would be the same as having a link from your data node:
http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.html?cmd=subset&catalog=http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/idd/model/DGEX/Alaska_12km/catalog.xml&dataset=NCEP/DGEX/Alaska_12km/DGEX_Alaska_12km_20051221_0000.grib2 
to this html page for the parent dataset:
http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.html?cmd=subset&catalog=http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/idd/model/DGEX/Alaska_12km/catalog.xml&dataset=NCEP/DGEX/Alaska_12km 
What do you think, is at least one of these links pretty doable?  Thanks 
again.
Carl
John Caron wrote:
carlw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Late in the day, probably didn't make myself very clear.  We felt 
that online users who accessed the catalog might find themselves 
navigating within these html pages.  And as a convenience, if they 
were on the parent dataset page (for a particular dataset) where the 
complete metadata is presented, we wanted to make it easy to directly 
go to the CatalogRef listing for that dataset without going back to 
the main thredds catalog page at http://dodsdev.gso.uri.edu/thredds/ 
and linking through there.
so a catalog like
http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/catalogServices?catalog=http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/idd/model/DGEX/Alaska_12km/catalog.xml 
should link to its parent catalog:
http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/catalogServices?catalog=http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/idd/dgex_model.xml 
??
And the other potential link I referred to would be down at the 
granule level.  On our present catalog, if you go down to metadata at 
the granule level, which is accessed by the links in the CatalogRef 
element for each
dataset, we were suggesting a
link down at this granule level back up to the parent dataset 
(metadata) page that I mentioned in the previous paragraph. 
so a dataset "node" like
http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/catalog.html?cmd=subset&catalog=http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/idd/model/DGEX/Alaska_12km/catalog.xml&dataset=NCEP/DGEX/Alaska_12km/DGEX_Alaska_12km_20051221_0000.grib2 
should link to its containing catalog, like:
http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/catalogServices?catalog=http://motherlode.ucar.edu:8080/thredds/idd/model/DGEX/Alaska_12km/catalog.xml 
??
If thats what you mean, that seems reasonable, the second one is easy 
to implement, but Im not sure if the first one is; catalogs dont know 
who their parents are, if they exist, and the parent doesnt have to be 
unique.